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| Sujet: Atlantis Expedition & Fire Mountain [Projets abandonnés | Atlantide, l'Empire Perdu] Lun 27 Mai 2024 - 23:10 | |
| C'est un point peu connu et tombé un peu dans l'oubli, mais Disney avait beaucoup de projets pour Atlantide, l'empire perdu. S'il ne reste désormais guère plus que Les Énigmes de l'Atlantide, compilation d'une série avortée, Disney avait pourtant l'ambition de développer la licence dans des attractions à Disneyland et Walt Disney World. À Disneyland en Californie, il y avait un projet ambitieux pour refaire l'attraction Submarine Voyage, une attraction initialement autour de l'une des inspirations du film Atlantide : 20 000 lieues sous les mers. "Gary (Trousdale), Don (Hahn) et moi avons eu le plaisir d'aller à Disneyland après les heures d'ouverture pour visiter l'attraction sous-marine, recouverte de barricades et d'échafaudages et entrer dans l'un des sous-marins et assister à une démonstration de ce qui devait être, à l’époque, une modernisation prévue du sous-marin", a déclaré Kirk Wise, coréalisateur du film. "Le voyage allait être raconté par Preston Whitmore. Il y aurait eu une rencontre avec le Léviathan. D'autres personnages allaient faire leur apparition en criant dans l'interphone. Cela allait être beaucoup plus axé sur le mystère, l'aventure et l'excitation, plutôt que sur une visite informelle de ruines souterraines. (John) Sanford a été amené à consulter sur le scénario, car plusieurs personnages parleraient via le système de communication du sous-marin. ""Ils allaient rééquiper le sous-marin pour qu'il ressemble à l'Ulysses [le sous-marin de l'expédition]", a déclaré Trousdale. "C'était très cool, je dois dire", a admis Hahn. "C'était triste de voir ça disparaître."Atlantis Expedition - Disneyland Un autre projet en préparation : Fire Mountain, une montagne russe dans la ligné des "montagnes" Disney ( Space Mountain, Splash Mountain, Big Thunder Mountain Railroad et Expedition Everest : Forbidden Mountain). Cette attraction se serait située au Magic Kingdom de Walt Disney World : "Pour prouver au monde que l'Atlantide est réelle, Whitmore Industries a créé un système de transport étonnant qui non seulement retrace l'itinéraire original de la découverte, mais fait appel à l'aide et l'expertise de certains des membres survivants de la première expédition." "Ils avaient tout un système qui était essentiellement une montagne russe à laquelle on pouvait s'accrocher comme si on était sur un deltaplane. Vous étiez suspendu par le dos, le ventre face au sol et le circuit au-dessus de votre tête , a expliqué Kirk Wise. "Dans un sens, cela reproduirait la sensation et le design des planeurs utilisés dans la bataille finale du film. Cela allait vous faire traverser l’explosion du volcan et divers autres scénarios, mais cela allait être une véritable montagne russe à sensations fortes intégrant ce nouveau système de manège". Hahn a qualifié le projet Fire Mountain de "génial". Fire Mountain - Walt Disney World Mais comme la série animée, les attractions pour Disneyland et Walt Disney World ont été annulées. Les trois premiers épisodes de la série télévisée ont été assemblés et sortis sous la forme d'une suite directe en vidéo intitulée Les Énigmes de l'Atlantide, sortie près de deux ans après le film original. Le voyage sous-marin à Disneyland a été repensé pour coller au blockbuster de Pixar : Le monde de Nemo. Et le Magic Kingdom de Walt Disney World n'a pas eu sa montagne. - Collider a écrit:
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Elsewhere in the company, there were big plans afoot for Atlantis: The Lost Empire. “There was a lot of interest from elsewhere in the company because it was so different,” Hahn said. At Disneyland, there was an ambitious plan to redo the Submarine Voyage, an attraction originally themed to one of the Atlantis touchstones: 20,000 Leagues Under the Sea. A poster hung in the park for what was known as the Atlantean Encounter, warning guests, “Don’t waste your air screaming.” (The most elaborate version of the attraction featured a full-sized volcano that the Disneyland Monorail would pass through.) “Gary, Don and I had the pleasure of going to Disneyland after hours to the submarine attraction, covered up by barricades and scaffolding and going into one of the submarines and looking at a demo of what was to be, at the time, a planned retrofit of the submarine ride,” Wise said. “The voyage was going to be narrated by Preston Whitmore. There would have been an encounter with the Leviathan. Other characters were going to make appearances by squawking in on the intercom. It was going to be much more focused around mystery and adventure and excitement, rather than a casual tour of underground ruins.” Sanford was brought in to consult on the script, since multiple characters would be talking over the submarine’s communication system. “They were going to retool the sub to make it look like the [expedition’s submarine] Ulysses,” Trousdale said. “It was very cool, I have to say,” Hahn admitted. “It was sad to see that go.”
Another project on the docket at Imagineering was Fire Mountain, a rollercoaster and new entry in the legendary chain of Disney “mountains” (Space Mountain, Splash Mountain, Big Thunder Mountain Railroad, and Expedition Everest: Forbidden Mountain). This attraction would be located in Walt Disney World’s Magic Kingdom in a section of the park that had inspired the entire Atlantis: The Lost Empire endeavor – Adventureland. The Fire Mountain Intent Scope Document, produced for Imagineering, describes the plot of the attraction: “To prove the world that Atlantis is real, Whitmore Industries has created an amazing transportation system that not only retraces the original route of discovery but enlists the experienced help and expertise of some of the surviving members of the first Expedition.” “They had a whole ride system that they had acquired that was basically a rollercoaster that you would hang from like you were on a hang glider. You’d hang from your back with your stomach facing the earth and the track above your head,” Wise explained. “In a sense it would duplicate the sensation and the design of the gliders that are used in the final battle of the movie. That was going to take you through the exploding volcano and various other scenarios but it was going to be a flat out rollercoaster thrill ride incorporating this new ride system.” Hahn described the Fire Mountain project as “great.”
And there were plans to expand the world of Atlantis: The Lost Empire for the small screen, as well. It was intended to be a “dramatic half hour” series, and Disney Television Animation’s answer to The X-Files, with Milo and the Ulysses survivors investigating otherworldly phenomena and ancient cultures every week. (There were also plans to, at some point, do a crossover with Disney’s popular animated series Gargoyles.) While Trousdale and Wise were not involved with the television project, they understood that the show was hugely ambitious. “They were going all over the world and checking out all the different things that were offshoots of Atlantis,” Trousdale said. “They played with the idea that we’d planted, which was that Atlantis was the cradle of all civilizations and everything spun off from there and they were going to all of these different places.”
But like the proposed attractions for Disneyland and Walt Disney World, the animated series was quietly canceled. The first three episodes of the television series were cobbled together and packaged as a direct-to-video sequel called Atlantis: Milo’s Return, released almost two years after the original film (you know, when interest had really peaked). The Submarine Voyage at Disneyland was re-themed, only the attraction that opened was connected to Pixar’s blockbuster Finding Nemo. And the Magic Kingdom in Walt Disney World is still damnably mountain-free.
And the reason was simple – Atlantis: The Lost Empire simply didn’t perform. “We could kind of seeing coming, a little bit,” Trousdale said. He cited the stiff competition in the form of Tomb Raider, a live-action video game adaptation that was attempting to hit the same action/adventure sweet spot, and a soft minority that claimed Atlantis, with its explosions in place of musical numbers and lack of animal sidekicks, was the anthesis of what a Disney animated movie should be. Wise knew that all of those grand plans (which included an honest-to-god theatrical sequel) were over almost immediately. “Opening weekend. Everybody had the best intentions, the studio really supported the movie, I think they marketed it very well but even the best intentions can’t make up for the fact that if you release the movie and people don’t go,” Wise said. “All the spin-offs and rides and comics and things that were planned for the movie, those get wiped off the table in one stroke.” Hahn said that the company “backed off,” and bemoaned the fact that they didn’t have faith. “In Walt Disney’s day, he would build Sleeping Beauty Castle in the middle of Disneyland four years before the movie came out. It was the promise that that would be part of the experience. That wasn’t the case anymore,” Hahn explained. MadEye, Princess Meg et ico aiment ce message
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| Sujet: Re: Atlantis Expedition & Fire Mountain [Projets abandonnés | Atlantide, l'Empire Perdu] Lun 27 Mai 2024 - 23:50 | |
| Oui... Et c'est un univers qui aurait eu toute sa place dans Discoveryland : Atlandide mêle l'animation Disney avec l'exploration et un aspect très "Jules Verne", et possède en plus un côté mystique qui très est affectionné par les européens. À l'heure actuelle, ils pourraient presque ressortir les projets des cartons, c'est le genre de film qui serait un peu à mi-chemin entre l'exploitation de licences Disney et quelque chose qui paraîtrait "inédit". Et cela semblerait si improbable comme choix que ça attirerait particulièrement la lumière sur le Disneyland parisien.
C'est assez triste de se dire que Disney n'exploite pas Atlantide, l'Empire Perdu et La Planète au trésor : Un nouvel univers qui, malgré leurs absences d'éclat au box-office, seraient des ajouts très intéressants pour Discoveryland. Ce sont des mondes très riches qui auraient pu bénéficier d'un second souffle à travers les parcs. MadEye et Princess Meg aiment ce message |
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| Sujet: Re: Atlantis Expedition & Fire Mountain [Projets abandonnés | Atlantide, l'Empire Perdu] Dim 25 Aoû 2024 - 19:10 | |
| Non, Brian Kesinger n'annonce pas une attraction Atlantide durant Concept Design: The Journey from Page to Parks. C'est simplement un court passage de sa présentation durant laquelle il parle des films sur lesquels il a travaillé, incluant Tarzan, Atlantide et La Planète au Trésor. Mais sans son contexte, je trouve cette photo prise à la D23 2024 assez amusante. On dirait presque un montage. |
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